The single biggest killer of CLL patients is uncontrolled infection – most often, pneumonia. Adding insult to injury, routine vaccinations do not work very well for our patient group. Secondary cancers such as skin cancer could also be due to inadequate immune protection. Getting a clear understanding of immune dysfunction baked into the cake for our guys is the first step in perhaps protecting yourself better. In this context, this review could easily be the most important one I have / will ever publish. New information and a brand new, exciting clinical trial has prompted me to do this review. I have tried to take much of the jargon and intimidation out of it. But there is no way of making a sound bite of this topic and only you can do the heavy lifting of actually reading this admittedly long review carefully and deciding for yourself whether you agree with the logic. I promise you the effort is worth it.
Immune dysfunction
Many things contribute to poor immune defenses in our patients. Before we get to the main course of this article, let us count the many different ways we are vulnerable to infections – especially viral infections. You cannot fight an enemy you do not understand.
First and foremost, CLL is a cancer of the very immune system that is supposed to protect us – a case of a corrupt police department that allows criminals to flourish unchecked. True, CLL is a cancer of the B-cells and that is only one part of the immune system. But there is so much interaction between the various arms of the immune system that given enough time the corruption spreads far and wide. This is particularly true of B-cells and T-cells, comrades in arms with many interactions. Net result is that many CLL patients have deeply compromised immune function across all aspects of their immune defenses. This is particularly true of advanced cases and / or those that have already been through immune suppressive chemotherapy regimens.
Age is an important contributing factor. There is no denying the majority of our patients are in their sixties, seventies or older. One of the consequences of aging is drop in both the number and diversity of T-cells. Since T-cells are the most important front-line troops as far as viral infections are concerned, this means older patients are more at risk of viral attack. As we age, and T-cell counts drop, so too do their ability to secrete very important proteins called cytokines. In particular, two specific ones called interleukin -2 and interferon gamma (IL-2, IFN-gamma). Low levels of these two cytokines is the hallmark of the frail elderly, prone to infections.
No matter how fit you are or how young you look, there are some aspects of aging that are unavoidable. One of them is the health of your thymus. This little gland is located just behind the sternum, below your thyroid gland. At birth it is about 5 cm long and reaches its maximum weight (20-40 grams) by the time of puberty. The thymus is at its most active during pre-adolescent period. By the early teens, the thymus has already started to shrink (“atrophy”). By the time you reach 75 years, it is a mere shadow of its former self, weighing only 6 grams. Why is this important? A healthy thymus is not just important but pretty damn near critical to the health of your T-cells. You see, newly minted T-cells are not very smart. They have no idea what to attack, how to tell the difference between friend and foe. They get their education and become “smart troops” at only one location in the body: your thymus. In fact, these cells are named “T“-cells because they get their marching orders during their stay in the Thymus (get it, T for thymus). As the thymus decays, so too does the ability of this glad to train new generations of T-cells. It is no coincidence that as people get older, they are more prone to viral infections, autoimmune disease, even cancer – all of which are a direct consequence of poor T-cell function.
Can drugs take over where our bodies and T-cells fail us? Not when the infections are due to viral invaders. Unlike bacterial infections, viral infections are harder to treat. We have available to us a huge line-up of broad spectrum antibiotics and with the exception of a few multi-drug resistant bacteria (MRSA and NDM-1 are good examples) it is possible to hit bacterial infections with a heavy duty shotgun approach that is quite effective. Not so if the infection is caused by a virus. PLEASE understand antibiotics do NOT work on viral infections. As of today, we have only a few very specific anti-viral drugs. None of them are truly broad spectrum and more often than we would wish it is impossible to even identify the real viral culprit soon enough to treat the patient. Nothing we have invented by way of drug discovery comes close to the job that a large and well educated army of T-cells can do.
One of the most important methods of defending against viral infections is active vaccinations. Basically, a small and de-fanged (meaning not dangerous) piece of the virus in question (say, the annual flu virus) is introduced into our bodies. The hope is that seeing this dangerous looking bit of a virus our bodes go on high red alert mode, beefing up resources to fight the actual virus should it ever invade our bodies. This is what is meant by the phrase “mounting a response to vaccination”. Unfortunately, older people and especially immune compromised folks like our guys are unable to respond sufficiently to vaccinations and mount robust response. We just don’t have what it takes by way of T-cells (among others) to get the ball rolling! It is now well understood that CLL patients have less than effective response to annual flu shots or periodic pneumonia shots, especially if the patient has already undergone chemotherapy. We have discussed these and similar concepts at length in several earlier articles – please browse through them if you want to refresh your memory. ( Improving routine immunizations “Jab & Dab” Killer T-cells )
Last but not least, some of the most potent drugs in our arsenal to fight CLL are also the most dangerous to T-cell health. Fludarabine and Campath (alemtuzumab) are both justly infamous for killing off T-cells. In the case of Campath, it has been clearly documented that T-cell numbers and their diversity take a huge hit that is not reversed any time soon. T-cell counts are less than 25% of their former levels as much as 9 months after completion of Campath therapy. Is it any wonder that viral infections and viral reactivations are so much more common after Campath and/or fludarabine therapy?
So what can we do about all this? There is no fountain of youth that can turn us back into healthy youngsters with a hefty thymus doing its job of training hordes of new T-cells (or may be there is!? Read on). We don’t really have much control over new viral drug development. True, we can use more commonsense and try to avoid viral infections by practicing “social distancing”. Anything else? Are there any drugs out there that will make vaccinations work better for us? CLL Topics sponsored and funded a clinical trial that explored one such approach, in our “Jab & Dab” clinical trial. Unfortunately, this trial has not gone anywhere and there are no clear results one way or another.
Here is a new approach that may succeed – a new clinical trial that has pulled together a lot of stuff that I have been pondering for quite some time. It has strong research backing and may succeed where “Jab & Dab” failed. In the real world of medical research, pedigree and funding matter.
NCT01351896
This clinical trial is hot off the presses, just announced on May 10, 2011. It is not yet open for recruitment, but that just means you can keep your powder dry and explore this option as soon as they start recruiting. The NCI (National Cancer Institute) and Ohio State University Hospital are collaborating on this one – high pedigree indeed. I am sorry to see that OSU is the only location where it will be offered.
In a nut-shell, the study involves giving CLL patients pneumonia vaccination shots (PCV13 vaccine) concurrently with low dose lenalidomide therapy. Say what? Low dose Revlimid along with pneumonia shots? How does that compute? Please click on the clinical trial link to read all the details of exactly how the trial is designed, who is eligible to participate, contact information and so on. I want to focus on the logic behind this trial, why there may be hope that this approach will allow our patients to be better protected by pneumonia vaccinations.
Senility and the immune system
Lenalidomide (Brand name “Revlimid”) belongs to a class of drugs called imids – meaning immune modulating drugs. Its mode of action is very different from that of standard chemotherapy drugs. We are only now beginning to understand how different.
A research team at the University of California (SF) led by Dr. Edward Goetzl discovered that low doses of lenalidomide can improve immune function in the elderly: increasing their ability to migrate throughout the body, more efficient patrolling activity and longer survival after a pitched battle against pathogen invaders.
They studied a group of 50 elderly adults through the National Institute on Aging and discovered there were two important cytokines (Interleukin -2 and Interferon gamma) that controlled good immune function. When these cytokine levels were adequately high, elderly patients were healthy. When these levels were low, the patients were sickly and prone to infections. Dropping levels of these important cytokines is a crucial part of poor immune function in the elderly. The technical name for it is “immunosenescence” – senility of the immune system. I will give you one guess as to which immune system cell line is responsible for secreting these two important cytokines: you got it, T-cells and their sidekicks, NK cells. Even if you are a feisty young CLL patient, your cancer may make your immune system behave as if it is senile!
The team found that low levels of lenalidomide administered daily increased IL-2 production by as much as 120 fold!! Interferon gamma levels increased by six fold. You can read more about Dr. Goetzl’s work in this UCSF newsletter article appropriately titled Fountain of Youth. His work has also been reported in the lay press as well as interviews by MIT, Wall Street Journal etc. For those of you who prefer your science undiluted, the professional article abstract in “Clinical Immunology” is given below. Please pay attention to the last sentence of this abstract. Dr. Goetzl is saying low dose lenalidomide therapy may be a way of improving senility of the immune system in the elderly.
Clin Immunol. 2011 Feb;138(2):201-11. Epub 2010 Dec 3.
Preferential enhancement of older human T cell cytokine generation, chemotaxis, proliferation and survival by lenalidomide.
Huang MC, Greig NH, Luo W, Tweedie D, Schwartz JB, Longo DL, Ferrucci L, Ershler WB, Goetzl EJ.
Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco, CA, USA.
Abstract
Lenalidomide, an analog of thalidomide, modified responses of stimulated T cells from healthy young (ages 21-40 years) and old (≥ age 65 years) subjects. At 0.03 μM to 1 μM, lenalidomide enhanced generation of IL-2 and IFN-γ by T cell receptor-stimulated T cells of young subjects up to respective maximum increases of 17-fold and three-fold, but at 0.3 μM and 1 μM suppressed IL-17 generation. The same concentrations of lenalidomide enhanced IL-2 and IFN-γ generation by stimulated T cells of old subjects more, with greater respective maximal increases of up to 120-fold and six-fold, without suppressing IL-17 generation. Lenalidomide enhanced proliferation and suppressed apoptosis of stimulated T cells from old subjects, by IL-2-dependent mechanisms, and restored diminished T cell chemotactic responses to CCL21 and sphingosine 1-phosphate. The reversal of T cell abnormalities of immunosenescence by low concentrations of lenalidomide suggest a potential for improvement of immunity in the elderly.
PMID: 21130040
“No one’s really talking about longevity and lifespan now, but about ‘health span,’” said Goetzl, director of UCSF Allergy and Immunology Research, which focuses on developing new diagnostics and treatments for allergic and immunological diseases.
“If, at age 50, your cytokine levels are the same as they were at 25, you’ll probably stay healthy as you age,” he said. “But if they’re heading downhill, we need to do something about it. If you could take a low-dosage pill with no side effects, wouldn’t you do it?”
So, if low dose Revlimid therapy can increase T-cell function and their ability to secrete IL-2 and IFN-gamma in the elderly, can it also do the same job in immune compromised patients such as CLL patients? Dr. Goetzl intends to find out.
Response to Vaccinations
As we discussed above, one of the major complications associated with immune compromised patients is that they do not mount sufficient response to routine vaccinations. Talk about a double whammy. They are most at risk of getting annual flu and perhaps having that escalate into full blown pneumonia – and they are also the least protected by routine vaccinations. It is all part of the same picture – an immune system that is not doing what it is supposed to do. If low dose lenalidomide can reverse some of the effects of aging on immune system function, can it also improve the response to vaccinations in patients with blood cancers?
The abstract below was presented at ASH2010. In this two arm study, patients in the experimental arm (Cohort B) were given shots of Prevnar (Brand name for pneumonia vaccination) while they were also getting low dose Revlimid therapy. The control group (Cohort A) got their pneumonia shots prior to start of lenalidomide therapy. All patients were relapsed multiple myeloma patients who had not had Revlimid before. Both groups also got booster shots of the pneumonia vaccination. Here is the punch line: “ the most potent immune response was observed when both prime and boost vaccines were administered while receiving lenalidomide”.
ASH 2010
2772 The Immunomodulatory Role of Lenalidomide on Prevnar® Responses in Patients with Relapsed Multiple Myeloma: A Comprehensive Analysis of the Immune Response
Kimberly Ann Noonan, MPH, BS1*, Anna Ferguson, RN1*, Carol A. Huff, MD2, Amy Emerling1*, Stephanie Mgebroff1*, Rose Wilson1*, Robert D. Knight, MD3 and Ivan M. Borrello, MD4*
Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD; Celgene Corporation, Summit, NJ
Aim: Pre-clinical data suggest that lenalidomide imparts an immunomodulatory effect. This clinical trial in relapsed myeloma patients examined the ability of lenalidomide to augment both endogenous as well as vaccine-specific immune responses in vivo.
Methods: Relapsed, lenalidomide naïve, patients treated with 3 or less prior regimens were eligible for the study. Prevnar®, a pneumococcal vaccine, was given either before or during administration of lenalidomide in two cohorts of patients. Cohort A received their first vaccination prior to administration of drug, and the second vaccine on cycle 2, day 15 of lenalidomide. Cohort B were first vaccinated on cycle 2, day 15 and then cycle 4, day 15. Patients were treated with 25mg of lenalidomide daily days 1-21 every 28 days for 6 cycles. Pneumococcal serotypetitres as well as CRM-197 T cell responses quantified the B and T cell responses, respectively, to Prevnar vaccination and were correlated with lenalidomide administration. Systemic immune responsiveness was determined by delayed type hypersensitivity (DTH) responses toCandida and tetanus and quantification of cytokines in the peripheral blood (PBL) serum and bone marrow (BM) plasma.
Results: A median two-fold increase in antibody responses to Prevnar was observed in cohort B, whereas cohort A demonstrated an 80% decrease in antibody titres. Antibody responses in the bone marrow were more pronounced than in blood and were greatest in Cohort B. 1.8% of the total T cell population proliferated to CRM-197 in Cohort B vs. 0% in Cohort A. Increases in DTH responses were seen in 50% of patients post lenalidomide. Luminex was utilized to measure cytokine levels pre and post lenalidomide. Globally, IL-6 levels were greatly reduced in both the BM (88% reduction) and PBL (77% reduction) samples. Both IFNγ and IL-17 were undetectable in the PBL samples, but were elevated and unchanged respectively in BM samples. Levels of IL-10 peaked in both cohorts after the first vaccination but were ultimately reduced with the administration of lenalidomide, and overall the levels were higher in the BM than PBL samples. MCP-1 and MIP-1β levels showed an overall decrease over the course of the trial. There was no alteration of IL2, IL-4, IL-5, TNFα, IL-7, IL-1 β, IL-12, IL-13, G-CSF or GM-CSF levels with the administration of lenalidomide.
Conclusions: This is the first comprehensive examination of the immunomodulatory effect of lenalidomide on global and vaccine specific in vivo immune responses. We show that the most potent immune response was observed when both prime and boost vaccines were administered while receiving lenalidomide. Immune enhancement by lenalidomide was seen in both the blood and BM compartments. Of note, the serologic titres were greater in the BM than blood and the T cell responses (when observed) appeared greater in the BM. These data provide evidence of the important role of bone marrow niche in the maintenance of immune memory responses. The increased DTH response to both Candida and tetanus provides in vivo evidence of lenalidomide-mediated immune enhancement. Taken together, these data demonstrate that lenalidomide augments in vivo immune responses in patients with advanced/relapsed multiple myeloma. This study provides the rationale for utilizing this drug in combination with cancer vaccines to augment anti-tumor efficacy or with infectious vaccines.
That was in multiple myeloma patients. How about CLL folks? Thought you would never ask. That is the point of this whole article folks. The just announced clinical trial we highlighted earlier (NCT01351896 ) does just that. It too is a double arm study. Both groups get low dose lenalidomide. The experimental group gets their pneumonia shot and booster on days 78 and 134, when they are nicely dosed up with Revlimid. The control group will get their pneumonia shot and booster on days 1 and 78. Notice the control group is getting their first (and major) pneumonia shot on day 1, before they have been on the daily low dose lenalidomide. The hope is that the response to vaccination will be better in the experimental group. As I said, this clinical trial is not yet recruiting. Only 48 people will be recruited and the only location is Ohio State University. That might make it difficult to get in. But both lenalidomide and PCV13 pneumonia vaccination are commercially available drugs. Both drugs are perfectly legitimate for use in CLL patients. If your oncologist agrees with the logic of this clinical trial, there is nothing preventing him from following the same protocol outside of the clinical trial. Worth discussing? You tell me.
Thinking outside the box
This is not the first time we discussed lenalidomide as an unusual drug for the treatment of CLL. Some of you may have read an earlier article I wrote on the subject of Chemoprevention . This clinical trial at Roswell Park ( NCT01003821 ) looks to treat high risk but chemo-naive patients with low dose lenalidomide, sooner than they would normally be treated. Once again the logic is very similar. The hope is that lenalidomide improves the patient’s own immune function so that it does a better job of keeping the CLL under control. If we can find ways of keeping high risk patients from progressing rapidly, that is a goal very worth achieving. If in the process of doing that we also make them less at risk of infections, who is going to complain?
This is the kind of research we need, ways of working with our own immune systems to gradually make CLL a “managed” cancer. A day may come when we can cure CLL patients with no fuss or risks associated with stem cell transplants. In the meanwhile, I would be delighted if we can slow it down, make it less dangerous in terms of infection risk. Improved quality of life and increased overall survival – the two goals that actually matter to patients and their families. Many different groups are working in this area, coming at the problem from different directions.
Editorial
OK, a lot of people seem to be interested in the immune modulating properties of Revlimid and that is good. Here are some of the concepts making the rounds, concepts we discussed above.
- Chemoprevention or slowing down the rate of progression by early treatment of aggressive CLL with low dose Revlimid (NCT01003821)
- Improved T-cell function and higher levels cytokines IL-2 and interferon gamma, therefore better resistance to infections (“Fountain of Youth“)
- Improved T-cell based responses to routine vaccinations (NCT01351896)
You know me, I can’t resist stretching the boundaries just a bit. I like all of these concepts just fine, I think these researchers are truly thinking outside the box and we are grateful. But there is one more angle where T-cells (or lack thereof) has huge significance for CLL patients. I am talking about secondary cancers, especially skin cancer. Did you know that T-cells play a very important role in controlling actinic keratosis, basal cell carcinoma (BCC) and squamous cell carcinoma (SCC)? It seems all of us – even healthy folks with no CLL – have microscopic clusters of cancerous cells scattered around on our skin. This is more likely as we age and accumulate decades worth of skin damage due to UV exposure. In healthy folks, these tiny clusters of cancer cells most often do not grow to become full fledged BCC or SCC or more dangerous malignant melanoma. That is because when T-cells are doing their job of immune surveillance, these malignant cells are quickly identified and killed, long before they become they can even be detected.
But that is precisely the problem with CLL patients. Our guys do not have sufficient T-cell surveillance to catch these incipient cancers before they can become full blown problems. That may be the reason why CLL patients are at increased risk of secondary cancers, especially skin cancer.
That brings us to the million dollar question: can low dose Revlimid therapy kill two (or many more!) birds at one stroke? In addition to all the other good stuff discussed above, can low dose Revlimid therapy also help reduce the risk of skin cancers in CLL patients? Below is a letter I sent to one of my friends who is also a CLL expert. It is pretty self explanatory. I will leave it up to you to judge its potential value of this hypothesis – please be aware it is only a hypothesis at this point.
Dear xxxxxxx:
In just the last month I lost two members / dear friends to aggressive skin cancer. Ironically, both had just undergone therapy (one had FR, the other PCR) to control their CLL and had done very well. Now I am in the middle of advising three different patients looking to make frontline therapy decisions. One has 17p deletion, one has 11q, and one has all the good prognostic indicators. The common theme between all of them is a long history of BCC and SCC.
• the guy with the good prognostics is told FCR is the gold standard, that is what he should get.
• The man with 17p deletion is told Campath is one of very few drugs that works on 17p deleted patients and that is what he should do.
• The 11q deleted patient has had massive increase in abdominal adenopathy – and at the same time he is also fighting a case of squamous cell carcinoma that invaded subcutaneous layers and needed very extensive Moh’s surgery to dig it out of his forehead. Based on the recent excellent European study comparing FC versus FCR, he is told he should get FCR since that levels the playing field for 11q patients.
Here is my problem in a nutshell: I do not want to lose any more friends to aggressive skin cancer while they are trying to do the “right thing” by their CLL – if I can find a way of finessing the problem. Whether or not FCR and Campath get these guys a good CLL remission, both of these options will destroy their T-cell and NK-cell counts – which may be just what is needed to kick their frequent bouts of BCC / SCC into high gear.
There seems to be consensus that Revlimid therapy increases the numbers and efficiency of T-cells and NK-cells. If you believe the recent article out of OSU on Revlimid, it also increases antibody production! A 2006 case history reported by Mike Keating suggests the improved cellular immunity can help clear refractory skin infections (relapsed FCR patient, bad case of mycobacterium marinum infection, Revlimid therapy demonstrably increased T-cell counts and cleared the skin infection as well as did a good job on the patient’s CLL).
To make a long story short, I have searched high and low to see if anyone has used Revlimid therapy to control BCC and SCC and prevent them getting out of control in immune compromised patients. I could not find any references. I discussed this concept with several CLL experts – using low dose Revlimid as a therapy option in early stage CLL patients at risk of aggressive skin cancer – as a way of keeping a lid on both the CLL and skin cancer issues. With a little bit of luck, I hope this pet project of mine may find a home in some clinical trial. I sure hope so. All I have at this point is a hypothesis, that Revlimid may help control skin cancer as well as CLL. That and ten cents will get me a dime. Nothing would please me more than see this concept explored.
Please feel free to send it on to whoever you think might be interested. The worst that can happen is a few of them might get a chuckle out of my naiveté about the complex issues of immunology.
Yours truly
Chaya
Don’t get me wrong. If you were a perfectly healthy person, never heard of CLL and not immune compromised in any way, you would be plain nuts to consider Revlimid therapy, low dose or otherwise! We have discussed the adverse effects of Revlimid therapy in earlier articles. Among them, the infamous tumor flare reaction, increased risk of blood clots etc. And let us not forget the $$$ cost of this drug! I wonder how long it will take before the generic and much lower cost version of the drug presently available from India will get FDA approval. But that is the subject of another article.
But if you are an immune compromised CLL patient, you don’t get much joy from routine vaccinations and of late you have been prone to frequent infections – especially pneumonia, and you get more than your share of BCC or SCC patches on your scalp or else where that need to be frozen off or dug out, this review may give you something to think about. And something to discuss with your doctors.





25 comments on "Vaccinations, infections and skin cancer"
Hi Chaya –
Let’s see… I’ve had SCC w/ perineural invasion (excised and radiated – thanks to you) I’m of Irish descent (read milky white to ruddy complexion, I live a mile from the beach and my Mom would send me back outside because, “I didn’t have enough color”. I turned 45 yesterday… Based on my understanding of your hypothesis, I can’t think of anyone that might benefit from this therapy than ME!
I’m going to look into getting into the trial and I’ll keep you and your followers up to date.
Thanks again for doing the heavy lifting!
I have walked a bunch of the planks … Chlorambucil, fludarabin, FCR, Cytoxin, Stem cell transplant (including 2 DLIs) followed by relapse, three full courses of Campath (just finished the last one). Mind you, I’m not complaining, as I keep doing well. AND, I don’t want to hog all the attention, but Chaya, I know you did this for me. THANKYOU. I’m bringing it to my wonderful Oncologist/Hem on Monday.
You never cease to amaze me.
Bob Larkin
Thanks Chaya for this article. I am pretty much the same boat as tpo4444. Irish, red hair, freckles, and spent my entire life out in the Texas Sun, fishing, working, playing, etc. I have had hundreds of spots burned off of my skin, numerous efudex treatmenst, at least 20 MOHS procedures for BCC and SCC, with several aggressive SCCs, since my CLL diagnosis. My skin is covered (and I mean covered) in crusty, scaly spots, which they regularly freeze off. I am still in W&W, but I have worried about the “gold standard” CLL treatments and how it might affect my already rev’d up skin cancer. I guess I will look into this clinical trial, as well.
Thanks for all you do.
Glenn
Glenn; tpo4444:
I want to clarify one thing. The new clinical trial (NCT01351896)I discussed above deals with hopefully improved response to pneumonia vaccinations if they are given concurrently with low dose lenalidomide therapy.
The concept of protecting CLL patients against skin cancer issues by means of low dose lenalidomide therapy is still just a hypothesis of mine, but based on some of the same logic. It is my hope that someday soon someone will actually make this an official clinical trial.
bolark: Yes, I did this for you. And all my other friends out there. This fight is very personal to me and my family.
Glad to read I am not alone in my twice yearly visit to the dermatologist to have my BCC’S burnt off. I also have a challenging infestation of warts on my hands mainly around my nails, now on most fingers. Bottom line I’m told to suck it up as nothing can be done for this viral infection that seems unrecognizable to my immune system.
Still the good news is 4 years into remission from second line FCR.
Very interesting article
Thanks Chaya
derek
Derek:
Sounds to me like you have the common garden variety of warts that are quite common in immune suppressed patients. Imiquimod (Brand name “Aldara”) has been considered as a possible topical treatment for this skin infection. Here is the link to a clinical trial that looked at this concept. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/498455
Imiquimod had a beneficial effect in five of 14 (36%) patients (Figs 1 and 2). In three (21·4%), complete resolution of a proportion of imiquimod-treated warts was observed. Of these patients, one achieved > 80% clearance and another 33% clearance, with no effects on untreated control lesions. However, in a third patient, 90% of both treated and untreated warts cleared during the study period
Chaya,
Thanks for this important information.
You mention that Revlimid (lenalidomide) is commercially available to CLL patients. I’m participating in a one-year clinical trial at MD Anderson Cancer Center involving daily doses of Revlimid for CLL patients who have miminal residual leukemia after being treated multiple times (in my case, I was treated three times, with FC in 1997, then FCR in 2005-6, then FCR again plus avastin in 2010).
My understanding, when I signed on for the one-year clinical trial was that Revlimid was both very expensive and NOT approved for use with CLL patients — although it IS approved for multiple myeloma patients and another group with a blood cancer similar to MM. Has that changed?
Also I’m not sure what you mean by “low-dose” Revlimid. I started off taking 10 mg a day in the clinical trial. We had to lower that dosage to 5 mg. a day because of side effects, which are not uncommon with CLL patients (I was told by staff at MD Anderson that MM patients react a little differently on Revlimid and can tolerate higher doses).
Revlimid evidently does produce a range of side effects in CLL patients — nothing lethal, in my experience, but annoying, for example, diarrhea, constipation, and odd rashes in uncomfortable places. Eventually those symptoms go away as one gets used to the drug. However, I’ve been told that other patients taking CLL also experience some neuropathy — tingling and numbness — that’s persistent.
Yours,
Linda Myers
Ithaca NY
Chaya,
I was diagnosed with CLL 2 months ago and am seeing an oncologist who said nothing should be done just yet. I will see him every 3 months for blood work. I am feeling fine and have no symptoms of any kind. While at his office his nurse gave me an pneumonia shot and the dr. recommended that I get a shingle shot as well. Have you read anything about this shot and why it may be important. Thank you for all the great articles. It gives my family a chance to read about CLL and know just what I am dealing with. I am 74 and in basically good health.
Claire
Walker May 18, 2011 At 1:17
I recently saw my Oncologist and I asked her if she would prescribe Revlimid to booster my immune system and she said my CLL was still in the early stage and she could not administer it at this time. Once the clinical trials are over I will talk to her again
Thanks for the updates.
Walker
Claire:
Newly diagnosed patients are more likely to have sufficiently robust response to vaccinations, compared to those who have progressive disease or have been treated with further immune suppressing chemotherapy.
Shingles vaccine: people who have had chicken pox earlier in their lives may be at risk of shingles (herpes Zoster). This is can be very painful and one of the CLL complications that I have written about extensively.
However, it is also recommended that CLL patients do NOT get the new version of shingles vaccine, the one that contains live virus (albeit somewhat weakened virus). The reason for it is that in immune compromised patients the live virus is sufficient to precipitate the very shingles the vaccination is supposed to protect against! However, if you are still in pretty good shape on the immune front, the risk may be worth taking. I have no way of judging that – you are best advised by your own physicians on that front.
Dearest Chaya,
I’ve been on W&W for almost exactly 4 years now, however things are starting to look like treatment might be imminent. Along with a host of other chronic problems (acoustic neuroma – treated by CyberKnife last year as surgery wasn’t an option with CLL), a meningioma, chronic sinusitis, hearing loss in one ear, tinnitus, osteoporosis, osteopenia, just for starters. Now it appears (not sure yet) that I might have Sjogren’s Syndrome.
Of course, my ENT, dentist, GP, neurologist, among others didn’t figure this out. I researched my symptoms (believe me, I seriously would not wish this horrible condition on anyone) and I have every single issue that goes along with the “syndrome”. I’m going to the rheumatologist next week to no doubt begin what will no doubt be yet another battery of tests.
Dr. Castro at UCSD said that if I do have it, “treatment” is in order. I truly hate that word, it sounds so benign.
At this point, I’m not sure I even want to pursue it, if necessary. The chemo wouldn’t cure the Sjogren’s anyway as there IS no cure and I truly don’t know how long I can go on like this. I literally never leave the house except for doctor’s appts as I’m so weak and bone tired. I have started to wonder how long it’s worth clinging to life.
Sorry to be whining, it’s just far too overwhelming. And my dear husband is so supportive, but as you well know, this is almost harder on him being a caretaker. Ok, enough babble, just had to vent.
Be well and thank you for all you do,
Jennifer
Hi Chaya,
This may be the most important article you have offered so far; but unlikely to be the most important ever. Some day we will be treated to your discussion of the combination regimen breakthrough that blocks stromal support, interdicts a critical roster of oncogenic signaling pathways, and causes pro-apoptotic cell cycle arrest for mutants. And it will taste like a strawberry milkshake. Thanks for your continuing digging, thinking,and publishing.
Tim
Thank you, Chaya,for a very interesting article.
Be well,
Monique
Thanks Chaya! You have been my hero since my diagnosis in 2008. Jennymac – hang in there! I keep you all in my prayers.
Patti
Dear Chaya,
I responded to your last article “FCR as Salvage Therapy”. I am one who had relapsed-refractory disease in summer, 2010, and then received five cycles of FCR last fall. In 2011, I have had pneumonia in Feb, March, April, and May requiring each time antibiotic infusions for ten days. Now I am undergoing desensitization for my allergy to penicillin. I’m one day from receiving penicillin full dosage. I am very hopeful that this solution works in stopping the recurring penicillin.
This article was written for me. It seems like I might be a candidate for the trial. I’ll be informing my hematologist and infectious disease doctors about it. Thanks so much for this information.
Arlyn Fuerst
Dear Chaya,
My friend has been receiving maintenance treatment of Campath and high dose steroids for the last year. It started as a week of treatment every four weeks, and then was changed to one week every six weeks. (She preiously went through FCR, then Campath, and finally Treanda) She has been getting pneumonia more and more often. My question– Can you boost the immune system at the same time Campath is destroying t-cells? Roz
Regarding Revlimid and immune function, here is an anecdotal report:
Until just recently, I had been on Revlimid for a year. The dosages varied, usually 5 mg and sometimes 10 mg daily. Prior to Revlimid, I had a history of squamous cell skin cancers, with three removed by surgery. Actinic keratoses would appear on my scalp and temple every six months or so, which my dermatologist had me treat with Efudex, which was effective. Since using Revlimid, the keratosis situation has calmed down. A couple of mild ones that were there when I started have not grown worse, and no new ones have appeared. This may be a coincidence, or maybe not.
I do know that Revlimid has had a definite effect on my autoimmune hemolytic anemia, another product of immune dysfunction. I was once prone to relapse (severe hemolysis) every few months, despite treatment with Rituxan, steroids, and cyclophosphamide. Revlimid appears to have restored my immune system to functionality as far as AIHA is concerned. During the past year I have had no sign of hemolysis, I have reverted to Coombs negative, and my red counts have all increased and are in the normal range. (At one point my hemoglobin rose to 15.6, the same place it was on the day I was diagnosed with CLL more than seven years ago.) I believe Revlimid has enormous potential for controlling AIHA, which is an insidious curse on those who must live with it, especially as other (and more toxic) drugs start failing to control it. This area is ripe for study and deserves its own clinical trial.
LBM3@cornell.edu
Yes, Revlimid is expensive and it has a significant adverse effect profile. We have addressed these in previous articles and highlighted them in this review as well.
However, many of our members do get Revlimid based regimens outside of clinical trials. It is commercially available and can be prescribed by physicians for their patients. My husband was prescribe it, as far back as in 2007. He was not in any clinical trial.
Definition of low dose depends on the specifics of the particular clinical trial. I suggest you read the citations we provided for the different clinical trials and get in touch with the researchers involved to get details of the drug dosage used in their protocols.
Dr. Brad Kahl at UW Madison told me he may be doing a study to determine the safety of the herpes vaccine on CLL patients. I am staying tuned on that one and will report any progress.
I’m on w/w for 4yrs now. Have been getting IVIG treatments monthly since diagnosed as low IGG. Before treatments and the 1st year I was constantly sick, pneumonia, sinus infections, endless cough. Now my only symtom is fatique. Only occasional infections. I just turned 60 and work full time. Thank you to my wonderful Doctor at Yale New Haven Hospital and my Oncologist/Hem. of 21 years and this 3rd cancer diagnosis. Your articles have kept me well informed.
Thank you for all you do for us
I’d like to add a few comments. First, the trial mentioned above will recruit only 48 high risk, chemo naïve patients which eliminates many readers of CLL Topics Updates. Second, the current pneumonia vaccines are targeting the strep. pneumoniae bacteria of which there are over 90 subgroups. The adult vaccine, pneumovax, gives protection against 23 subgroups but has little efficacy in infants or young children. The newer vaccine, prevnar, was designed for them but gave protection only for the 7 commonest childhood subgroups. The latest version of prevnar gives protection for 13 subgroups which still leaves about 80 subgroups without a vaccine. The latter along with a host of other pathogens, some viral or fungal, will still pose a threat to us even if we have 100% efficacy for those covered by prevnar 13. Third, the so called herd immunity is very evident in pneumonia. The incidence of pneumonia in unvaccinated adults has dropped for those subgroups covered by prevnar 7 but increased for those not covered. The same can be expected for prevnar 13, introduced in 2010, as it is used more and more. The message is ‘get your herd vaccinated’! If you are around young children as a parent or grandparent, a talking point with their pediatrician would be to revaccinate with prevnar 13 assuming they have not had it. Lastly, Revlimid is in wide use for treating multiple myeloma and recent studies have confirmed an increased risk for secondary cancers associated with long term use of this drug. The myeloma research community is trying to understand this within the context of disease characteristics and it remains to be discovered if problems might exist for the CLL community.
Regards, TomD
Chaya
As always, thanks so very much for your/another excellent article and for your dedication.
As I have previously written/communicated, I was diagnosed with stage 4 cll a little over 5 years ago. I underwent the fcr-lite treatment/protocoland thankfully I have been remission for nearly 4 1/2 years. Besides some “roller coaster” ups and downs of various blood counts/tests (i.e. platelets, etc), the “only” long term adverse effect (as of the past and the present) is my suppressed immune system (igg, iga and igm). My iga and igm levels continue to be nearly non-existent. I receive routine ivig infusions/treatment – every 4 to 6 weeks – in order to temporarily boost my igg levels. I receive annual flu and pneumonia vaccinations, yet I am prone to “catching” various and ongoing infections, viruses, etc (both bacterial and other). In fact, I just got over a 5 bout with some “bug” that had me in bed for 5 to. In order to be proactive, my oncologist ordered a batter of various lab tests and concurrently prescribed both tamiflu and an antibiotic for me to take- just to be safe/cautious.
So, my question to you regarding the contents of the recent article is as follows: Is this “experimental” vaccination (to help/assist) the immune system going to be open to cll patients who are in remission, yet have an ongoing suppressed immune system (immune compromised)? If so, as Ohio state is only approximately 3 1/2 hours from where I live in western Pennsylvania, I may be interested in talking with them – to see if I would be a candidate.
Thanks very much and hope all is well with you. Take care
Alan
Pittsburgh, PA
Thanks yet again to Chaya for a great article, more thought provoking scientific material, and encouraging, practical ideas.
The information is very relevant to my situation; I am in my fifties, and was diagnosed with CLL about 10 months ago. It is early stage RAI 1, but with 17p and unmutated IgVH.
Shortly after diagnosis, I also had a squamous cell carcinoma surgically removed from my forehead for the first time.
The first advice given me on diagnosis was the usual ‘watch & wait’ , but I wasn’t happy with that, and began researching – luckily I found CLL Topics and Updates almost immediately !
I quickly realised that I needed to know what my prognostic indicators were, and recognised the significance of the test results when they arrived. The information on the website helped me understand that there are complicated interactions within our immune systems, and my rapid development of a malignant skin cancer was a wake up call that cancerous B cells were almost certainly interfering with my T cell function.
I also read about Revlimid’s ability to assist the immune system, and how, being early stage, I still had a significant population of healthy lymphocytes present and available to fight the CLL cells.
My hematologist is cooperative and willing to supervise my use of the medication, so for the past 5 months I have been taking Revlimid daily. It may be because I am early stage, with a relatively low cancer cell burden, or it may just be that I am lucky, but I have only had minor side effects – a mild tumour flare reaction for a couple of weeks, a low grade rash and abdominal discomfit for a short time, and perhaps fatigue with higher (25mg) doses.
My total lymphocyte count (admittedly not very high to begin with) has dropped by nearly 50% in this time
My goal is just that described in the article – to try to stall the progression of my poor prognosis CLL for as long as possible and gain time while new medications come on line, or new treatment combinations are discovered.
The material in ‘Infections, Vaccinations and Skin Cancer’ is just the kind of vital information I am hoping to hear. If a vaccination administered now in combination with Revlimid, has the potential to prepare T cells to be more effective in the future AND boosts the immune systems ability to destroy CLL cells AND helps control skin cancer – that’s a powerful range of weaponry to use in our battle. Lets hope the trial results pan out that way…
Meanwhile I have an appointment in 3 days to go have my first polyvalent pneumococcal vaccinaton !
Thanks again Chaya, and everyone else who contributes, – knowing there is a community of support and advice makes a huge differance.
Chris
Dear Chaya — well, you know I have been fighting skin cancers for ages now….major ones on my scalp just last summer and another along my nose this past March. I am lucky that my scalp issue was able to be closed in a way that I have hair growing. As it is I have two indentations the size of a half dollars there. I have had so many on my face I have lost count at this point. Most of them dealing with skin grafts – or plastic surgery – It is very stressful and I never know how bad it will be when they start digging in. AND many times it was I and not the doctor who found them or questioned ‘what is this??’
So I would LOVE to have your idea about this helping with skin cancers come to light. It has gotten so I just hate to even go for my twice mmonthly ck up at my dermatologist………….yet I know I must:-(
Darlene
p.s. and by the way — I have a very large ‘wart’ on my finger from the base to the knuckle — supposedly called a ‘flat’ wort. It has been frozen off…..which did no good at all…….have used some an ointmemnt called immiquimod- which also did no good. So i have this dry flat ugly scaley thing on my finger — I guess I should be grateful it isn’t on my face too along with the other skin cancers I have continually. After a time of ‘stuff’ happening all the time, you can get pretty discouraged.
Darlene
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