When there are few good options left..
In my last article I wrote about the withdrawal of Campath as a marketed drug for CLL. This was such a blatantly cynical decision, based on nothing more than profit. I am not a huge fan of Campath. It has a high degree of immune suppression associated with it, especially in terms of drastically reduced T-cell counts for many months after completion of therapy – which in turn leaves patients vulnerable to opportunistic infections, secondary cancers etc. So, why am I upset about Campath getting pulled from the market for CLL folks? Because Campath is one of very few drugs that is thought to work to some degree for patients with the dreaded 17p (TP53) deletion. Are there any others? Yes, but it is a frighteningly small list. Flavopiridol is one of them. This drug has been in clinical trials for more years than I can remember – and it is still stuck there. The only place you can get it is at Ohio State University, under the watchful eye of Dr. John Byrd. Over the years, it has been shown this drug is not easy to administer – serious risk of tumor lysis syndrome – and hence no one outside of OSU currently uses this drug. Another option with possible benefit is Revlimid (lenalidomide). However, initial hopes that the drug will work with 17p deleted folks have been somewhat dampened when a large scale study showed less than expected response in this subset of patients.
Hope on the horizon
Kinase inhibitors are all the rage these days. In particular, ibrutinib (PCI-32875) has demonstrated some remarkable activity in CLL, with no major adverse effects demonstrated thus far. I have written about this drug several times thus far, you can find the earlier articles by searching for the key words in the search box at the top right hand corner of our home page.
What is most exciting about ibrutinib is that it seems to have remarkable efficacy even in high risk patients, especially those with 17p deletions. This is tremendously hopeful news. However, phase-3 trials have just gotten underway and it will be some time before it even comes up for FDA review for approval. Phase-2 clinical trials presently going on are pretty much sold out, and in any case each of these trials has a long list of inclusion criteria that limits who can get in. Double arm phase-3 trials have the added complication of randomization into either of the two arms.
I have had to face this heartbreaking question several times in the past few months: what do I tell patients with aggressive CLL with the 17p chromosomal deletion, who cannot get into one of the ibrutinib trials underway, and who cannot afford to wait for future trials and definitely cannot wait for the drug to become commercially available? This drug may give them a much needed lifeline, perhaps set them up with a good enough remission that allows them to get into a transplant program. Or it may give them a couple more years of high quality of life with their families. Who can put a dollar value on that?
Compassionate use access programs
Initiating a compassionate use access program is not a simple process. But it can be done, if the company in question actually wants to do it. It takes money, people resources and the desire to reach out to the patient community. Ibrutinib is owned by Pharmacyclics. Janssen pharmaceuticals, a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson has purchased the rights to the drug in the USA. Pharmacyclics is not a large company. But J&J is very large, more money than god as they say, and with massive financial resources, people, and of course, lawyers to protect its crown jewels.
I figured that while it may be difficult for Pharmacyclics to initiate a compassionate use access program because of their size, it should be well within the reach of an industry leader such as J&J. Fortunately for me, one of the folks at J&J wrote to me, to see if they can work with our patient community – they were interested in working with me on some sort of a survey, along the lines of the very large patient feedback survey we did with Mayo Clinic. I took the opportunity to raise with J&J the question of compassionate use access program so that some of our patients who desperately need ibrutinib but cannot get into the clinical trials have a path forward. Here is the relevant part of my letter to the company:
There is one important topic that I would really appreciate your bringing it up with your senior management. It has to do with compassionate use access to ibrutinib. I fully understand the need to conduct clinical trials with well defined inclusion criteria. Scientific experiments and the results from them are only as credible as the rigor with which the experiments are conducted – I am enough of a scientist myself to accept that wholeheartedly. We need well conducted clinical trials in order to get this valuable drug through the FDA approval process and last thing we need is hiccups along the way because of poorly defined clinical trial protocols and “squishy” methodology in data collection.
But at the same time, there are always individual patient stories that need to be addressed, if at all possible; people who fall between the cracks as it were, who do not fit the exact profile demanded by the inclusion criteria of clinical trials. Well publicized compassionate use access programs are a hugely important way of reaching out the patient community, a way of establishing good faith on behalf of the pharmaceutical company. J&J is a large company, with the human and financial resources needed to manage such a program, a corporate culture that does not look only at profits or stock price. If anyone can take the lead in establishing a badly needed new paradigm for working with the patient community, it is going to be companies such as J&J. There is common ground and much to be gained here, but we need vision and leadership to make it happen. If there is anything I can do to help initiate / progress such a program, I would be honored to do so.
On a very personal note, my husband was granted compassionate use access to ofatumumab back in 2006, well before its commercial availability. He had developed severe allergic response to the murine components of Rituxan and I am convinced ofatumumab gave him a precious couple more years of high quality life. He was a very high visibility patient in the CLL community and I think it made a difference to how Genmab was viewed by patients. I was delighted to testify on behalf of the patient community before the FDA scientific panel as they deliberated approval of ofatumumab – perhaps my testimony made a difference.
How did J&J respond to my heartfelt plea? I heard back from my initial contact at J&J. No dice. He could not even get anyone at J&J to talk to me on the phone. The best he could do, he said, was give me the general phone number at J&J that I can call, where I can get the public domain boilerplate that some lawyer at the company has drafted on the subject of compassion. That, is if I succeeded getting through the telephone tree in the first place, I suppose. To say that I am disappointed is putting it mildly. I am steamed!
Editorial
It seems the last time I wrote about ibrutinib and in my editorial comments I discussed the potential bleeding risk, someone at the Yahoo finance group message board on Pharmacyclics picked up my article and it created a minor brouhaha – heck, it may have even caused a very temporary downward blip on the stock price. But I will be the first to admit I am no expert on that front. I do not own a single share of Pharmacyclics or J&J, nor do I plan to in the future. And I doubt anything I can say or write will ever have much of an impact on a company of the size of J&J. I got a bit of an ego sugar high when a few financial analysts called me to ask if I would consult with them – for a fee of course. The deal would be that I give them a heads up before publishing the next article. How many different ways would I be compromising my promises to this patient community if I did that? No thank you. I don’t need money that badly.
Does J&J have a history of reaching out directly to the patient community when it comes to their oncology drugs? As it turns out, it is one of the more proactive companies on that front. Does anyone remember the direct-to-consumer television ads the company took out on their drug Procrit? This is an epo drug, a red blood cells growth factor. If I remember correctly, the advertisement would show an elderly gentleman, moping around because his red blood cell count was too low to let him go out and play with his grandson. Or dance at his daughter’s wedding. Whatever. Then he gets Procirt, and lo and behold, there he is out playing ball and the soul of the party at the wedding. I may not have remembered the exact story-line, but you get the gist. Heck, they may even have had violin music as background, these TV ads were clearly expensive, well produced and slick affairs.
The only problem was that epo growth factors had tell-tale adverse effects when used heavily in cancer patients. I was one of the very first people to raise the alarm on this front (as far back as 2003!!). My article was titled “The dark side of epo“. It is now well established that Procrit and similar epoetin red blood cell growth factors can act as growth factors for cancer as well, increasing risk of cancer progression and relapse. We now have pretty strict guidelines on how these drugs can be used.
I don’t blame pharmaceutical companies for trying to make money, even lots of it. Cancer patients with poor red blood cell counts would have been a huge market for expensive red blood cell growth factor drugs. I just wish J&J is as proactive in reaching out to the patient community when it comes to establishing compassionate use access programs – or even bothering to talk to the patient community about it. Outreach should be the norm, not the exception only when the company is trying to sell us something.
The perfunctory brush-off I got is nothing personal, I am well aware of that. But it is one more sour note in the long story of pharmaceutical industry’s inability to establish good-faith and two way communications with the very patients that they will be marketing to down the road. How about a little bit more respect, folks?
As for me, my apologies. I am truly sorry I was not able to do better for you guys. If some of you have ideas on how to breakthrough this typical logjam, I am only too willing to listen.





26 comments on "Compassionate use access programs"
Dearest Chaya,,,, I think you’ve done your very best, and more than your share. Since my diagnosis in 2004, I have gotten a real education in REALITY. The healthcare system, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals have a disturbing agenda at times. It’s one thing when one is healthy and feels like fighting,, quite another when unwell and weak, feeling especially vulnerable. It doesn’t help the psychological ramifications of this disease, that is for sure.
It is why we appreciate you and your work, Chaya. Please don’t beat yourself up– we don’t have any better ally/champion than you.
I have gotten more reliable information from your site than all of my oncologists and doctors put together.
jane j. stamey
So very disappointing, especially from a company who touts how much they care. Just spend a moment on their “Home” page, under “Our Company” and read their statements. First off, they state “Caring for the world, one person at a time….” Then it gets better when you check out their “Credo Values”. Here you can find the statement, “The values that guide our decision making are spselled out in Our Credo. Simply put, Our Credo challenges us to put the needs and well being of the people we serve first.” REALLY???? Sure makes me think twice before buying J&J products in the future.
Thank you Chaya for all the knowledge and support that you give the CLL community. Without it many of us would be lost. You have helped my family more than you know.
Sue
Chaya,
RIGHT ON! PLUS…your writing style explains precisely – the problem.
Good stuff..as usual,
William Bates
Chaya, I can’t thank you enough for all that you do for us. You truly are an advocate who tirelessly researches, educates and fights for what’s right.
You are one of the very few who will stand up for patients who don’t have a collective voice. And, honestly, you deserve much better from a company like J&J. The J&J contact who offered to give you their general phone number so you can play, “Choose 1 if you are calling about a product, Choose 2 if you are calling about a complaint, …” should be demoted to the mail room where he can’t interact with customers. Based upon your description, he failed terribly in promoting J&J as a caring company but succeeded wonderfully in casting J&J as a company that brushes off serious inquiries with recommendations that leave the customer seriously PO’d.
Perhaps, nowadays, the pharmaceutical companies only see us patients as cash cows and they don’t care about patient communication or compassionate use before their pet products are FDA approved. Harsh reality? I’d hate to think so. Even if that is the case, you deserved a call from the real powers that be at J&J thanking you for your interest but explaining what you requested wasn’t doable. That’s respect for you and your time. Evidently J&J didn’t get the memo on respect.
You definitely get my respect and my heartfelt thanks.
I am lucky, I am in the phase III study and things could not be better.
I own J&J stock. That doesn’t mean I am not mad at them for their callousness and disregard for their own “Credo”
I have always considered mission statements and credos to be salesmenship, nothing more.
J&J will hear from me, for all the good it will do.
Thanks for your good work. Keep it up.
Dale
I don’t see how anyone could not be moved by your well-written and passionate letter. You could not have laid out a better plan for them to do the right thing and they won’t even discuss it. Maybe we all need to start a letter writing campaign to J&J voicing our disappointment.
Lets hope they never have to go through, what we are going through.
Please accept the heartfelt gratitude we each feel for your valiant efforts.
The medusa-like head of the pharmaceutical monster is entangled in corporate greed-think that, while the Supreme Court gives each corporation the right to put money in the pockets of those who invest in fortunes through greasing the wheels and calls it free speech, the citizenry who is supposed to be we, the people, (and the customer who was once, “always right” has lost all power to be heard.
There is no heart in the corporate environs.
I find it particularly interesting that J&J found value in your work, and wanted to
co-opt your integrity– at least I see it that way. If they could pay you, you would then be theirs….ah, the giant maw waiting to swallow anything that moves.
Thank you for not giving away your power, Chaya. I am forever grateful for your
strength, honesty, integrity. Now, let’s all take a deep breath and relax a bit.
NAMASTE’
Essie:
To be fair, J&J never offered to pay me. It was Wall Street financial consultants that wanted to see if I would work with them, for financial reward.
Chaya, first thank you for all your efforts on behalf of all CLL patients. I have a question that is tangential to
this discussion. Regarding EPO products, did the studies
regarding the negative effects on tumor growth take into
account the differences between Procrit and Aranesp,ie.
additional carbohydrate chains and MW etc?
Thanks for trying for us Chaya, we sure could do with some speed up on these new KID drugs.
In your last posting you were asking what might happen if the B cells are blocked with the new KID family of drugs and I asked this question last week at our CLL conference here in London UK. The answer was, we dont know what might happen but Rituxin – the R in FCR, also blocks the b cells and it seems to not have too drastic an effect, at least so far so good on that one.
Minotaur:
Pretty much all the epo drugs (Procrit, Aranesp, Epoetin etc) are implicated in potentially facilitating cancer cell growth as well. Bummer.
Chaya, congratulations and thank you for the impact you are already having.
Perhaps the employee you were dealing with at J&J didn’t want to rock the boat. There may be another internal route to someones ear. If your articles are attracting enough attention for the speculators to take notice then continuing that work is indispensable. Letter writing from the community might also help. Stirring up the media usually attracts some attention.
I’m not sure if the L&L society is too close to stir the pot. Livestrong?
again, Thanks to you, Elaine
Dear Chaya, your updates are the only info I sit up and get excited about. You are my SLL/CLL guru. I feel your reports are the only real honest reports I care to read completely since my diagnosis 2009. If there is any way I can help, count me in!
Sharon
Chaya:
Thanks again for all you do!
I don’t own stock in either company, but the reader who does own J&J may do well in writing a letter to Investor Relations asking for a contact name, or asking a senior shirt to email Chaya. I suspect a monster the size of J&J will not feel the ripples of a small group of consumers such as ours. Their consumer base is so massive, we are tiny in comparison, and perhaps that is what those executives were conveying in brushing you off.
A letter campaign is not a bad idea, and perhaps we all ask the investor to forward our collective request for an interview with Chaya? Just a thought.
Thanks for your heart of gold.
Hi Chaya,
As ever, you cut through all the various “flim-flam”, you have an incredibly valuable ability to destill the essence from verbose articles, filled with jargon, and therefore often hard to read AND understand; you are a gate to clarity.
You also have the ability to calm and therefore ease the fears so often “rattling” a CLL-brain. You are my gate to sanity! I am ever you grateful, Mette
I would gladly join in on a letter-writing campaign. Perhaps I’ll do it today. I am a nurse (wife of a SLL/CLL guy)and have always appreciated the support J&J showed for nursing in their commercials. How disappointed I am in them now.
Oh Chaya – You have made such a difference in my life and, I’m sure, in the lives of so many cll patients and their families. Thank you again in this regard. A Compassionate Use Access Program should be part of J&J’s organization but, as with most of the nation’s pharmaceutical companies, money is the bottom line. It makes me sad. If I had a nickel for all the J&J products I’ve purchased in my lifetime I’d be rich. It’s time for me to change that habit.
Chaya,
Thanks for clearing up my understanding. While the sting is still there, the fact that it was not J&J offering you pay, helps my perception. And your clearing up my misunderstanding makes me admire you that much more. (Bask in the glow of our adoration. It is at least some pay back for your dogged efforts.)
The response of the J and J official SHOULD have been personal. You should have been seen as someone who represents (superbly) a significant patient consumer population and not receive the brush- off. As Sharon aptly put it, you are the guru of the CLL/SLL “club”. Is it possible that this could be worked up for 60 minutes if the topic was broadened? How about an article in Mother Jones? Add my immense appreciation to all your other grateful students.
Dear Chaya – you are an absolute treasure, spending so much time and effort to bring the latest news and developments to our CLL community. And it comes with a huge added benefit – since you translate all the medical jargon into understanable English. It is such a labor of love. We are all so very grateful that you are the incredible patient advocate that you are.
What an outstanding letter you drafted to J&J about compassionate use access for ibrutinip. It touched all the relevent bases and was framed in a manner that showed compassionate use access for ibrutinip could be a win-win situation for J&J and well as the 17p CLL patients.
How very disappointing that you were literally “ignored.” It’s possible your initial contact didn’t run the request “high enough up the corporate ladder” and got a “no-go” response from a lower level functionary. In any corporate bureaucracy it’s always possible that a low level staffer put up the roadblock. Navigating through the corporate bureaucratic jungle can be a daunting task – especially when trying to get to a person at a high enough level who can have the request actually looked at.
And Big Pharma – if they were 1/10th as interested in patient public relations as in their profits, it would probably be better for all concerned. Good PR (handled correctly) can have big benefits especially for a nationally known company as large as J&J.
A BIG thank you Chaya for all the time and effort you expend in the CLL vineyards.
Warm regards – Patti Kruse
Hi Chaya,
As I always tell you so you remember me…..I am the woman who has six cell types of cancer. Update: The brest cancer went to my right femur bone. The surgery and treatment has kept me quiet because the complications are harsh. New bladder cancer after 16 years remission! July tumor removed and cancer is under control. I have turned 65 and the Medicare insurance has hindered me and takes so much valuable time.
You are the bright spot in my life and I think of you every day. My sister also has CLL and does not miss your writings. You sent me to MD Anderson, Ohio State and Roswell Park. So I listen to you the most along with my doctors. I only wish I could communicate more….
Not only is compassionate use needed for CLL 17 deletions but for CLL with other cancers. Many CLL patients have more than one cancer. I just happen to have six. Even with all cancer under control I can not get in to Clinical Trial. If you make any progress with the drug companies please include people like me. Multi-challenged. I believe a part of any BTK clinical trial should include a section for more types of patients who could live better and safer with Ibrutinip.
I am forced to use Revlimid because chemo causes me to grow other cancers. Revlimid has caused severe Neuropathy. I am hardly able to walk some days. I wanted so bad to be in the NIH Trial but was not taken because they did not want to make me worse. I am worse now because I had to go back to the Revlimid. The side effects are very intense and I never took more than 10mg. On Revlimid from July 09. No trial involved again no doctor would take me.
The main reason I am writing now is: You might try to contact Celegene who recently bought out Avila, the develper of a BTK inhibitor AVL-292.
Because it is behind in the Trial race for acceptance they might support you on a compassionate basis. This information was given to me by Wayne Wells for my own plan but you may get faster information.
Best Wishes to you and all the CLL Patients. Colleen Filanowski
Thanks again Chaya for your above and beyond the call of duty efforts. I am currently in the o.s.u. phase two ofa/ibru trial and am nearing the end (1 yr.) my longest remission with all my treatments has been 3 weeks.I have suffered some irreversible side effects with these treatments. Today I suffer loose stool is all . And my counts are approaching normal. I had one foot in the grave when I started this trial and now I have a future.
Hey this stuff work and they know it. I have also shared rooms with the 17 deleted folks and it works just as well for the ones I have talked to.
On my last visit I spoke to my N.P. and told her how sad I was that this drug was not available for all and they should work with the F.D.A. for fast track. She said they are trying. So maybe some hope is there.
This drug company has a lot to gain from a fast track the only losers would be the few centers that are administering the trials as the patients would then be spread out more.
Maybe the gleevec method for fast track could be used. Also The big guy Dr. Byrd is an unpaid member of the pharmacyclic board. This might help.
Just some thoughts Dan
Disappointed to say the least. Kudos to you, Chaya, for giving it a try. I am truly upset because Tom and I were just talking about this very thing today at MD Anderson. Tom has done so well on ibrutinib and he was wondering what happens to the CLL patient’s who can’t get on a trial for this treatment. Tom will enter a new trial of ibrutinib on his next visit to MD Anderson. It is for long term use of this drug. We both feel so lucky to be able to just jump from this trial to the next one…..Tom feels very sad for those who are asking to get on this trial but can’t. Shame on Johnson and Johnson.
I have to share some good news, at least for those who are on the Ibrutinib trial. I had to stop taking the drug on July 19th when I was dx with lung cancer. I figured at that point I was off for good. But after my cancer (and upper right lung lobe) was removed, today I got the word from Dr. Farooqui that I would be allowed to return to the trial after a two month “interruption”. I will post more when I know the details of how many hoops he had to go through. Initially it looked like he would have to go to company, NIH review board and FDA. Now it could be that company approval was all that was needed.
I think this is very good news for those in the trial. As CLL patients, our odds of getting a second cancer are something like 1 in 2. My experience shows that if you get that cancer and can remove it, you will most likely be able to stay in the trial.
I, too, wish there was another path for access to the drug. I know NIH fought hard for 6 more slots for untreated 17p- and finally, after one denial, got the slots. I’m wondering if compassionate access is more likely during the Phase III trial cycle.
I think Chaya will prevail and that the powers that be at J&J will realize she is a valuable ally
Are there other readers on CLL Topics who have requested Compassionate Access for ibrutinib, but been denied?
My other-half has refractory CLL. Stem-cell transplant was recommended, but his nodes need to be smaller than 5cm. Ibrutinib might well do the trick.
We wrote to Johnson & Johnson and to Pharmacyclics, this month. Both of them responded but denied our request.
I’m looking to connect with others who have contacted the drug companies (or who would be interested in banding together to do so) for compassionate access to ibrutinib – either single-patient compassionate access, or a wider expanded access program – until the time that the drug gets approved. Strength in numbers?
Thanks!
Brian
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